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Subject:
Re: Fiat Sceicento Sporting

From: "Pete M" <pete.murray(at)blue-nopressedmeat-yonder.co.uk>

Subject: Re: Fiat Sceicento Sporting

Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 23:37:15 +0100

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In news:3h93asFg2kveU1(at)individual.net,

DanTXD <dan405(at)SdanPontAherMun.com> decided to enlighten our sheltered souls

with a rant as follows

> "Pete M" <pete.murray(at)blue-nopressedmeat-yonder.co.uk> wrote in

> message news:42af2b5c$0$18644$14726298(at)news.sunsite.dk...

>> In news:M6xre.14403$jS3.3968(at)newsfe2-win.ntli.net,

[cinqs and seicentos]

>> I drove a hired Seicento poverty model from Amsterdam to Brussels a

>> few years ago. Thrashed it to within an inch of its life all the way

>> there, and just sat at, um, 90ish all the way back.

>>

>> Cost me the equivalent of £14.00 in fuel to do something daft like

>> 500 km. Comfier than the train though.

>>

>

> *shudder* ANYTHING is better than having to resort to public

> transport.



To be honest, Dutch public transport is brilliant, it just wasn`t available

the day I needed it.



--

Pete M

"If it does more than 20 mpg in town, I don`t want it"

Range Rover Vogue SE,

Porsche 911 Carrera 3.2

Ford Capri (ressurection started)



COSOC #5

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SUBJECT: Re: Fiat Sceicento Sporting
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From: "DervMan" <dervman(at)ntlworld.com>

Subject: Re: Fiat Sceicento Sporting

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Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 06:15:44 GMT

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"SteveH" <steve(at)italiancar.co.uk> wrote in message

news:1gy66a5.bi8o6617zy04oN%steve(at)italiancar.co.uk...

> DanTXD <dan405(at)SdanPontAherMun.com> wrote:

>

>> "SteveH" <steve(at)italiancar.co.uk> wrote in message

>> news:1gy643y.bpjgsou5ljo5N%steve(at)italiancar.co.uk...

>> > DervMan <dervman(at)ntlworld.com> wrote:

>> >

>> >> Ford raised the city car game by devising a chassis that slapped

>> >> everything

>> >> else in the class about the face with a wed haddock in the twisty

>> >> material

>> >> but also gave it a supple ride and decent motorway refinement.

>> >

>> > Then lumbered it with a wheezy old pushrod engine and Fisher Price

>> > styling.

>> >

>> > The Cinq. was boxy, but, especially once lowered, looked just *right*.

>> >

>> > I`ve snipped some stuff, but I`ll refer back to the PAS, aircon

>> > etc.....

>> > what the *fuck* is the point in stuff like that in a stripped out

>> > little

>> > hatch? - I mean, it robs the Ka of desperately needed bhp, so you`re

>> > better off without it.

>> >

>> > Cinq. wins every time for me.

>>

>> On Parkers, it says (or at least, it used to) that the PAS equipped Ka`s

>> were about a second slower to 60.

>>

>> Now THAT`S pittiful :)

>

> *ding*

>

> The Fiat solution for PAS was much better (once it arrived on the Sei) -

> they used electric assistance rather than using a power-sapping

> hydraulic pump they grabbed from the parts bin.





And robbed it of feel...



Have you tried the Ka`s PAS?





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The DervMan

www.dervman.com










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SUBJECT: Re: Fiat Sceicento Sporting
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From: "DervMan" <dervman(at)ntlworld.com>

Subject: Re: Fiat Sceicento Sporting

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Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 06:23:37 GMT

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"SteveH" <steve(at)italiancar.co.uk> wrote in message

news:1gy643y.bpjgsou5ljo5N%steve(at)italiancar.co.uk...

> DervMan <dervman(at)ntlworld.com> wrote:

>

>> Ford raised the city car game by devising a chassis that slapped

>> everything

>> else in the class about the face with a wed haddock in the twisty

>> material

>> but also gave it a supple ride and decent motorway refinement.

>

> Then lumbered it with a wheezy old pushrod engine and Fisher Price

> styling.



Who cares about the design of the engine? More people don`t than do...



The styling is cute, but it`s also personal. You`re not going to like it

because (a) it`s trendy to dislike it and (b) it wears a Ford badge.



I`m open minded about such things.



> The Cinq. was boxy, but, especially once lowered, looked just *right*.



It did not look right. It looked like a boxy lowered Lego car.



The Cinquecento also has the handicap of looking almost exactly like the

Lancia Y10 or Fiat Uno from many perspectives. Hmm.



> I`ve snipped some stuff, but I`ll refer back to the PAS, aircon etc.....

> what the *fuck* is the point in stuff like that in a stripped out little

> hatch? - I mean, it robs the Ka of desperately needed bhp, so you`re

> better off without it.



Stripped out? Why did it have electric windows, central locking and the

best stereo of the range?



I think you`re getting confused between "stripped out" and "couldn`t find

the space for" here.



So you don`t drive anything without PAS, is that it? You said last week

that you`d not consider running a car without air conditioning these days?



You also excluded the bits about the Cinquecento`s interior being less

practical and it having a smaller boot.



> Cinq. wins every time for me.



In your opinion, which is hugely biased against Fords.



I wonder if it would be the same if the Cinquecento wore a Ford badge and

the Ka had a Fiat badge. Yeah I can imagine - "oh sure the Ka has an old

generation engine, but it handles so well, it`s just right as a small car,

and it proves how good the Italians are at making a car look funky. The

Cinq, how can they call a 1.1 litre a `sporting` car?"



Anyway, is the Cinquecento featured in Gran Turismo 4? Oh, look, no it`s

not. But the pushrod 1.3 Ka is...



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The DervMan

www.dervman.com














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Title: Holden VXR
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 12:19:02 +0000
Author: Limboy

My brother and I were watching an episode of Top Gear this afternoon, and we were discussing why Singapore never had a Holden VXR.

Yes, despite it being a V8 5.6L engine, it still one of the cheapest around, with a supercharger at less than S$70,000. If you had seen one of Top Gear Australia (they feature Holdens all the bloody time), the supercharger’s whine is simply orgasmic – on top of the deep bellow of the V8. Closer rivals are the Chysler 300C, and Jaguar… something.

All produce about 340-400 bhp, enough to pull the entire Singapore to Melbourne.

So why isn’t anybody importing the VXR?


More on: http://limboy.wordpress.com/2009/09/26/holden-vxr/



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Title: Ferrari 458 Italia
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 12:12:15 +0000
Author: youngmanmaster

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