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Re: Fiat Sceicento Sporting

From: "DervMan" <dervman(at)ntlworld.com>

Subject: Re: Fiat Sceicento Sporting

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Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 06:15:44 GMT

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"SteveH" <steve(at)italiancar.co.uk> wrote in message

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> DanTXD <dan405(at)SdanPontAherMun.com> wrote:

>

>> "SteveH" <steve(at)italiancar.co.uk> wrote in message

>> news:1gy643y.bpjgsou5ljo5N%steve(at)italiancar.co.uk...

>> > DervMan <dervman(at)ntlworld.com> wrote:

>> >

>> >> Ford raised the city car game by devising a chassis that slapped

>> >> everything

>> >> else in the class about the face with a wed haddock in the twisty

>> >> material

>> >> but also gave it a supple ride and decent motorway refinement.

>> >

>> > Then lumbered it with a wheezy old pushrod engine and Fisher Price

>> > styling.

>> >

>> > The Cinq. was boxy, but, especially once lowered, looked just *right*.

>> >

>> > I`ve snipped some stuff, but I`ll refer back to the PAS, aircon

>> > etc.....

>> > what the *fuck* is the point in stuff like that in a stripped out

>> > little

>> > hatch? - I mean, it robs the Ka of desperately needed bhp, so you`re

>> > better off without it.

>> >

>> > Cinq. wins every time for me.

>>

>> On Parkers, it says (or at least, it used to) that the PAS equipped Ka`s

>> were about a second slower to 60.

>>

>> Now THAT`S pittiful :)

>

> *ding*

>

> The Fiat solution for PAS was much better (once it arrived on the Sei) -

> they used electric assistance rather than using a power-sapping

> hydraulic pump they grabbed from the parts bin.





And robbed it of feel...



Have you tried the Ka`s PAS?





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SUBJECT: Re: Fiat Sceicento Sporting
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From: "DervMan" <dervman(at)ntlworld.com>

Subject: Re: Fiat Sceicento Sporting

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Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 06:23:37 GMT

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"SteveH" <steve(at)italiancar.co.uk> wrote in message

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> DervMan <dervman(at)ntlworld.com> wrote:

>

>> Ford raised the city car game by devising a chassis that slapped

>> everything

>> else in the class about the face with a wed haddock in the twisty

>> material

>> but also gave it a supple ride and decent motorway refinement.

>

> Then lumbered it with a wheezy old pushrod engine and Fisher Price

> styling.



Who cares about the design of the engine? More people don`t than do...



The styling is cute, but it`s also personal. You`re not going to like it

because (a) it`s trendy to dislike it and (b) it wears a Ford badge.



I`m open minded about such things.



> The Cinq. was boxy, but, especially once lowered, looked just *right*.



It did not look right. It looked like a boxy lowered Lego car.



The Cinquecento also has the handicap of looking almost exactly like the

Lancia Y10 or Fiat Uno from many perspectives. Hmm.



> I`ve snipped some stuff, but I`ll refer back to the PAS, aircon etc.....

> what the *fuck* is the point in stuff like that in a stripped out little

> hatch? - I mean, it robs the Ka of desperately needed bhp, so you`re

> better off without it.



Stripped out? Why did it have electric windows, central locking and the

best stereo of the range?



I think you`re getting confused between "stripped out" and "couldn`t find

the space for" here.



So you don`t drive anything without PAS, is that it? You said last week

that you`d not consider running a car without air conditioning these days?



You also excluded the bits about the Cinquecento`s interior being less

practical and it having a smaller boot.



> Cinq. wins every time for me.



In your opinion, which is hugely biased against Fords.



I wonder if it would be the same if the Cinquecento wore a Ford badge and

the Ka had a Fiat badge. Yeah I can imagine - "oh sure the Ka has an old

generation engine, but it handles so well, it`s just right as a small car,

and it proves how good the Italians are at making a car look funky. The

Cinq, how can they call a 1.1 litre a `sporting` car?"



Anyway, is the Cinquecento featured in Gran Turismo 4? Oh, look, no it`s

not. But the pushrod 1.3 Ka is...



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The DervMan

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SUBJECT: Re: Fiat Sceicento Sporting
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From: "Nom" <Nom(at)Somewhere.Somewhere>

Subject: Re: Fiat Sceicento Sporting

Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 10:44:21 +0100

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DervMan wrote:

> So you don`t drive anything without PAS, is that it?



I certainly wouldn`t ever choose a car without PAS !



> You said last

> week that you`d not consider running a car without air conditioning

> these days?



Nor would I choose a car without AirCon !



Both the above are mandatory comfort requirements.














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Title: McLaren MP4-12C
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 21:58:07 +0000
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